Warning: Transaction charge

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Postby GaryRussell » Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:07 pm

PeteB wrote:Great - thanks Gary - that's good to know - it makes a few things easier if we can move bets!


Just to clarify, changing the odds, but not the stake changes the bet reference. This is counted as a transaction.
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Postby PeteB » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:29 am

Doh! Of course! So the only immune things are canceling and reducing stakes - rats that scuppers my brilliant idea for reusing bets you want to cancel by moving them to 1.01 / 1000 until you need them again - oh well...
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Postby Ian » Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:24 pm

Quite surprised to receive an email from Betfair saying that I had incurred a charge for yesterday, I had two tabs open with both with a 2 second refresh and the throttle ticked and set at 20 in preferences. Should this produce a charge if I don't have any commission to offset ?
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Postby GaryRussell » Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:55 pm

With the throttle set you should never incur a charge. We did tests in conjunction with Betfair before the charge was officially introduced. In any case 2 tabs with a 2 second refresh each is nowhere near enough to exceed 20 per second, it's only 2 requests per second.

Are you absolutely sure you weren't running something also connected to Betfair? I think you should contact datausage@betfair.com for a breakdown.
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Postby Ian » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:12 pm

Thanks for the reply, Gary. As far as I know, I didn't do anything different to what I have done every day for the past few months. BA is the only API application I have on the PC I am currently using. I have already emailed the data usage team for the details but it doesn't look as if I'll get a reply until Monday.
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Postby Ian » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:23 pm

Have now received the data from Betfair and it seems as if the charge relates to my use of Betfair Lite via some web queries rather than BA. Up to last week you didn't need to sign on to get the market info on Lite.

I'd forgotten that I used the web queries during the morning when I replied to you on Friday :oops: Won't be using them again although Befair have waived the charge.
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