Laying below minimum stakes
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Re: Laying below minimum stakes
by BruceLeet » Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:58 pm
Good stuff guys, will install the latest version and report back if I see any issues.
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Re: Laying below minimum stakes
by garytaylor » Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:28 pm
Hi I've downloaded the new version and it is working better but on dutching there is still an issue where if I'm dutching 4 selections it is only picking up 2 or 3
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Re: Laying below minimum stakes
by BruceLeet » Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:34 pm
[quote="MarkRussell"]It only affects bets being requested that are below minimum stakes.
If you don't require such bets then you won't see a problem.
The point is Betfair did not give us any notification that they were making this change nor have they provided any documentation.
But we believe we have now identified a workaround which has been applied to the new release.
Regards,
Mark[/quote]
Actually I do have a question about this, just to double-check. Does this change have an effect on hedging? Because you obviously sometimes have to fully hedge (even out profit/loss) with a below minimum stake that BA calculates itself when using the ladder, even though you can use above minimum stakes.
Sorry if I didn't explain properly, not great with the technical side of it but I do actively trade so in words I'm asking whether this will impact my hedging overall?
If you don't require such bets then you won't see a problem.
The point is Betfair did not give us any notification that they were making this change nor have they provided any documentation.
But we believe we have now identified a workaround which has been applied to the new release.
Regards,
Mark[/quote]
Actually I do have a question about this, just to double-check. Does this change have an effect on hedging? Because you obviously sometimes have to fully hedge (even out profit/loss) with a below minimum stake that BA calculates itself when using the ladder, even though you can use above minimum stakes.
Sorry if I didn't explain properly, not great with the technical side of it but I do actively trade so in words I'm asking whether this will impact my hedging overall?
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Re: Laying below minimum stakes
by GaryRussell » Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:55 pm
garytaylor wrote:Hi I've downloaded the new version and it is working better but on dutching there is still an issue where if I'm dutching 4 selections it is only picking up 2 or 3
I am looking into this.
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Re: Laying below minimum stakes
by garytaylor » Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:11 pm
Thank you - I have temporally fixed with 50p min bet but was testing below this level at 10p min bet
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Re: Laying below minimum stakes
by BruceLeet » Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:40 pm
OK so updated my BA version from 1.3.0.44a (from last year) to 1.3.0.45d and now starting to experience all sorts of weird issues (Euro currency) with hedging/greening up on multiple markets on football, too complex for me to even try to explain. Used varying stakes from 2 to few hundred and it becomes pretty difficult to fully green up, if it's not fully greened at first attempt then it gets tricky once the greening up stakes go below the minimum bet, some don't fire or fire at wrong price, and once trying to green up with a back bet at one price triggered around 5 tiny back bets a tick below.
I can imagine this being a nightmare on horse racing for many, especially around higher odds, serious money can be lost here. Doesn't seem like Betfair have thought this through at all?!?! Or consulted their software vendors at all? Because basically all traders will run into issues with greening.
I see that there's a new BA version out now 1.3.0.45e so going to install that one.
I can imagine this being a nightmare on horse racing for many, especially around higher odds, serious money can be lost here. Doesn't seem like Betfair have thought this through at all?!?! Or consulted their software vendors at all? Because basically all traders will run into issues with greening.
I see that there's a new BA version out now 1.3.0.45e so going to install that one.
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Re: Laying below minimum stakes
by GaryRussell » Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:45 pm
BruceLeet wrote:OK so updated my BA version from 1.3.0.44a (from last year) to 1.3.0.45d and now starting to experience all sorts of weird issues (Euro currency) with hedging/greening up on multiple markets on football, too complex for me to even try to explain. Used varying stakes from 2 to few hundred and it becomes pretty difficult to fully green up, if it's not fully greened at first attempt then it gets tricky once the greening up stakes go below the minimum bet, some don't fire or fire at wrong price, and once trying to green up with a back bet at one price triggered around 5 tiny back bets a tick below.
I can imagine this being a nightmare on horse racing for many, especially around higher odds, serious money can be lost here. Doesn't seem like Betfair have thought this through at all?!?! Or consulted their software vendors at all? Because basically all traders will run into issues with greening.
I see that there's a new BA version out now 1.3.0.45e so going to install that one.
Sorry, I had to tweak it again. Please let me know if the same issues occur with the latest version.
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Re: Laying below minimum stakes
by garytaylor » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:44 pm
Hi mate was the newest version intended to fix my dutch issue as I'm still having the issue
Cheers
Cheers
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Re: Laying below minimum stakes
by BruceLeet » Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:22 pm
Version 1.3.0.45e performed better I think, didn't encounter any hedging issues. Will test it further over the following days, hopefully you guys establish dialogue with Betfair on Monday to understand their reasoning behind it and fully solve it together if needed, because this affects all other software vendors and their users. An exchange where you cannot hedge your bets is not an exchange.
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Re: Laying below minimum stakes
by BruceLeet » Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:36 pm
Btw Gary/Mark if you want us to do any testing with staking etc please let us know, just give out specific instructions and I'm happy to do it if able.
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Re: Laying below minimum stakes
by BruceLeet » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:28 pm
Had no issues today with hedging unlike with the previous version, but there seems to be a small issue of never fully hedging on the first try anymore, it happened consistently today on 15+ markets, there was always like 1 more cent needed to fully hedge again (this btw has been happening over the last few years for me but was relatively rare), from both back and lay sides, and I was allowed to do it and place the 0.01 hedging bet almost every time, it was only rejected 2-3 times. So still not flawless but getting there.
I'm not a programmer but I assume this has something to do with bet rounding from the Betfair API side, heard something about that from other software vendors.
I'm not a programmer but I assume this has something to do with bet rounding from the Betfair API side, heard something about that from other software vendors.
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Re: Laying below minimum stakes
by Fawltyrat » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:21 am
This just happened again> here is the log.
Laying rougher horses for a PAYOUTof 10
Keep inplay is ticked
.
Race is about to jump..im clicking all the horses i want to lay over and over.
Race jumps..the 200/1 shot has been layed for around 1300 bucks..I backed it back in the run but it didnt win.(this time)
I assume the program created a bet lay at 1.01( now 1.08) for 5 dollars.It then cancels 4.95 and lays 0.05c at 200/1.
at the second the race goes in play,for some reason the remaining 4.95 doesent get cancelled and the horse gets layed for the full 5.00 at 200/1
1 23/06/2020 5:24:58 PM 203045822217 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 448
2 23/06/2020 5:24:58 PM 203045822225 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.14 (My bets) OK 449
3 23/06/2020 5:24:58 PM 203045822227 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.04 (My bets) OK 449
4 23/06/2020 5:24:58 PM 203045822228 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.04 (My bets) OK 449
5 23/06/2020 5:24:58 PM 203045822230 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 449
6 23/06/2020 5:24:58 PM 203045822232 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 449
7 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045822217 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 461
8 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045822225 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 460
9 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045822227 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 460
10 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045822228 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 460
11 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045822230 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 460
12 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045822232 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 460
13 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045823013 Layed 3. Intransit @ odds:26.00, stake:0.38 (My bets) OK 510
14 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045823017 Layed 2. Yankee Strutter @ odds:160.00, stake:0.06 (My bets) OK 511
15 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045823018 Layed 4. Chantrey @ odds:40.00, stake:0.25 (My bets) OK 511
16 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045823019 Layed 9. Secret Jack @ odds:38.00, stake:0.26 (My bets) OK 511
17 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045823020 Layed 1. Threo @ odds:32.00, stake:0.31 (My bets) OK 511
18 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045823021 Layed 6. Change Of Mind @ odds:30.00, stake:0.33 (My bets) OK 511
19 23/06/2020 5:25:07 PM 203045827189 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 490
20 23/06/2020 5:25:07 PM 203045827189 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 463
21 23/06/2020 5:25:08 PM 203045827792 Layed 3. Intransit @ odds:28.00, stake:0.36 (My bets) OK 516
22 23/06/2020 5:25:08 PM 203045827996 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.14 (My bets) OK 1775
23 23/06/2020 5:25:08 PM 203045827997 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.04 (My bets) OK 1775
24 23/06/2020 5:25:08 PM 203045827998 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.04 (My bets) OK 1775
25 23/06/2020 5:25:08 PM 203045827999 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 1775
26 23/06/2020 5:25:08 PM 203045828000 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 1775
27 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045827996 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 509
28 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045827997 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 509
29 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045827998 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 509
30 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045827999 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 509
31 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045828000 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 509
32 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045828847 Layed 2. Yankee Strutter @ odds:170.00, stake:0.06 (My bets) OK 566
33 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045828848 Layed 4. Chantrey @ odds:42.00, stake:0.24 (My bets) OK 566
34 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045828849 Layed 9. Secret Jack @ odds:40.00, stake:0.25 (My bets) OK 566
35 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045828850 Layed 1. Threo @ odds:34.00, stake:0.29 (My bets) OK 566
36 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045828851 Layed 6. Change Of Mind @ odds:29.00, stake:0.34 (My bets) OK 566
37 23/06/2020 5:25:17 PM 203045833715 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 442
38 23/06/2020 5:25:17 PM 203045833719 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.14 (My bets) OK 438
39 23/06/2020 5:25:17 PM 203045833720 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.04 (My bets) OK 438
40 23/06/2020 5:25:17 PM 203045833721 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.04 (My bets) OK 438
41 23/06/2020 5:25:17 PM 203045833722 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 438
42 23/06/2020 5:25:17 PM 203045833723 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 438
43 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045833715 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 410
44 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045833719 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 514
45 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045833720 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 514
46 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045833721 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 514
47 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045833722 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 514
48 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045833723 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 514
49 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045834305 Layed 3. Intransit @ odds:27.00, stake:0.37 (My bets) OK 512
50 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045834400 Layed 2. Yankee Strutter @ odds:180.00, stake:0.06 (My bets) OK 614
51 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045834401 Layed 4. Chantrey @ odds:44.00, stake:0.23 (My bets) OK 614
52 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045834402 Layed 9. Secret Jack @ odds:42.00, stake:0.24 (My bets) OK 614
53 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045834403 Layed 1. Threo @ odds:36.00, stake:0.28 (My bets) OK 614
54 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045834404 Layed 6. Change Of Mind @ odds:29.00, stake:0.34 (My bets) OK 614
55 23/06/2020 5:25:35 PM 203045823020 Update bet ref:203045823020, old odds:32, new odds:32 (Update bet persistence ref:203045823020 (my bets)) PERSISTENCE_MODIFICATION_SUCCESS 444
56 23/06/2020 5:25:36 PM 203045828848 Update bet ref:203045828848, old odds:42, new odds:42 (Update bet persistence ref:203045828848 (my bets)) PERSISTENCE_MODIFICATION_SUCCESS 1062
57 23/06/2020 5:25:37 PM 203045834400 Update bet ref:203045834400, old odds:180, new odds:180 (Update bet persistence ref:203045834400 (my bets)) PERSISTENCE_MODIFICATION_SUCCESS 1783
58 23/06/2020 5:25:37 PM 203045834403 Update bet ref:203045834403, old odds:36, new odds:36 (Update bet persistence ref:203045834403 (my bets)) PERSISTENCE_MODIFICATION_SUCCESS 1783
59 23/06/2020 5:25:37 PM 203045823013 Update bet ref:203045823013, old odds:26, new odds:26 (Update bet persistence ref:203045823013 (my bets)) PERSISTENCE_MODIFICATION_SUCCESS 1783
60 23/06/2020 5:25:37 PM 203045834305 Update bet ref:203045834305, old odds:27, new odds:27 (Update bet persistence ref:203045834305 (my bets)) PERSISTENCE_MODIFICATION_SUCCESS 1783
61 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853800 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.16 (My bets) OK 445
62 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853801 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.04 (My bets) OK 445
63 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853802 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.04 (My bets) OK 445
64 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853803 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.04 (My bets) OK 445
65 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853804 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 445
66 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853794 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.02 (My bets) OK 448
67 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853794 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 461
68 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853800 Below minimum stake, cancel bet OK 462
69 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853801 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 462
70 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853802 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 462
71 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853803 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 462
72 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853804 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 462
73 23/06/2020 5:25:49 PM 203045854483 Layed 3. Intransit @ odds:22.00, stake:0.45 (My bets) OK 515
74 23/06/2020 5:25:49 PM 203045854484 Layed 2. Yankee Strutter @ odds:200.00, stake:0.05 (My bets) OK 515
75 23/06/2020 5:25:49 PM 203045854485 Layed 4. Chantrey @ odds:46.00, stake:0.22 (My bets) OK 515
76 23/06/2020 5:25:49 PM 203045854486 Layed 1. Threo @ odds:40.00, stake:0.25 (My bets) OK 515
77 23/06/2020 5:25:49 PM 203045854487 Layed 9. Secret Jack @ odds:38.00, stake:0.26 (My bets) OK 515
78 23/06/2020 5:25:49 PM 203045854489 Layed 6. Change Of Mind @ odds:27.00, stake:0.37 (My bets) OK 515
79 23/06/2020 5:25:56 PM 203045823020 Cancel bet (cancel all bets clicked) REMAINING_CANCELLED 441
80 23/06/2020 5:25:56 PM 203045834403 Cancel bet (cancel all bets clicked) REMAINING_CANCELLED 441
81 23/06/2020 5:26:46 PM 203045882188 Backed 2. Yankee Strutter @ odds:220.00, stake:5 (My bets) OK 2719
82 23/06/2020 5:27:11 PM 203045892627 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.12 (My bets) OK 1460
83 23/06/2020 5:27:12 PM 203045892627 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 510
84 23/06/2020 5:27:13 PM 203045893347 Layed 2. Yankee Strutter @ odds:150.00, stake:0.07 (My bets) OK 1488
Laying rougher horses for a PAYOUTof 10
Keep inplay is ticked
.
Race is about to jump..im clicking all the horses i want to lay over and over.
Race jumps..the 200/1 shot has been layed for around 1300 bucks..I backed it back in the run but it didnt win.(this time)
I assume the program created a bet lay at 1.01( now 1.08) for 5 dollars.It then cancels 4.95 and lays 0.05c at 200/1.
at the second the race goes in play,for some reason the remaining 4.95 doesent get cancelled and the horse gets layed for the full 5.00 at 200/1
1 23/06/2020 5:24:58 PM 203045822217 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 448
2 23/06/2020 5:24:58 PM 203045822225 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.14 (My bets) OK 449
3 23/06/2020 5:24:58 PM 203045822227 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.04 (My bets) OK 449
4 23/06/2020 5:24:58 PM 203045822228 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.04 (My bets) OK 449
5 23/06/2020 5:24:58 PM 203045822230 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 449
6 23/06/2020 5:24:58 PM 203045822232 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 449
7 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045822217 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 461
8 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045822225 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 460
9 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045822227 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 460
10 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045822228 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 460
11 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045822230 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 460
12 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045822232 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 460
13 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045823013 Layed 3. Intransit @ odds:26.00, stake:0.38 (My bets) OK 510
14 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045823017 Layed 2. Yankee Strutter @ odds:160.00, stake:0.06 (My bets) OK 511
15 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045823018 Layed 4. Chantrey @ odds:40.00, stake:0.25 (My bets) OK 511
16 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045823019 Layed 9. Secret Jack @ odds:38.00, stake:0.26 (My bets) OK 511
17 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045823020 Layed 1. Threo @ odds:32.00, stake:0.31 (My bets) OK 511
18 23/06/2020 5:24:59 PM 203045823021 Layed 6. Change Of Mind @ odds:30.00, stake:0.33 (My bets) OK 511
19 23/06/2020 5:25:07 PM 203045827189 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 490
20 23/06/2020 5:25:07 PM 203045827189 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 463
21 23/06/2020 5:25:08 PM 203045827792 Layed 3. Intransit @ odds:28.00, stake:0.36 (My bets) OK 516
22 23/06/2020 5:25:08 PM 203045827996 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.14 (My bets) OK 1775
23 23/06/2020 5:25:08 PM 203045827997 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.04 (My bets) OK 1775
24 23/06/2020 5:25:08 PM 203045827998 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.04 (My bets) OK 1775
25 23/06/2020 5:25:08 PM 203045827999 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 1775
26 23/06/2020 5:25:08 PM 203045828000 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 1775
27 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045827996 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 509
28 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045827997 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 509
29 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045827998 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 509
30 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045827999 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 509
31 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045828000 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 509
32 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045828847 Layed 2. Yankee Strutter @ odds:170.00, stake:0.06 (My bets) OK 566
33 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045828848 Layed 4. Chantrey @ odds:42.00, stake:0.24 (My bets) OK 566
34 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045828849 Layed 9. Secret Jack @ odds:40.00, stake:0.25 (My bets) OK 566
35 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045828850 Layed 1. Threo @ odds:34.00, stake:0.29 (My bets) OK 566
36 23/06/2020 5:25:09 PM 203045828851 Layed 6. Change Of Mind @ odds:29.00, stake:0.34 (My bets) OK 566
37 23/06/2020 5:25:17 PM 203045833715 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 442
38 23/06/2020 5:25:17 PM 203045833719 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.14 (My bets) OK 438
39 23/06/2020 5:25:17 PM 203045833720 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.04 (My bets) OK 438
40 23/06/2020 5:25:17 PM 203045833721 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.04 (My bets) OK 438
41 23/06/2020 5:25:17 PM 203045833722 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 438
42 23/06/2020 5:25:17 PM 203045833723 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 438
43 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045833715 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 410
44 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045833719 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 514
45 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045833720 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 514
46 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045833721 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 514
47 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045833722 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 514
48 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045833723 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 514
49 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045834305 Layed 3. Intransit @ odds:27.00, stake:0.37 (My bets) OK 512
50 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045834400 Layed 2. Yankee Strutter @ odds:180.00, stake:0.06 (My bets) OK 614
51 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045834401 Layed 4. Chantrey @ odds:44.00, stake:0.23 (My bets) OK 614
52 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045834402 Layed 9. Secret Jack @ odds:42.00, stake:0.24 (My bets) OK 614
53 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045834403 Layed 1. Threo @ odds:36.00, stake:0.28 (My bets) OK 614
54 23/06/2020 5:25:18 PM 203045834404 Layed 6. Change Of Mind @ odds:29.00, stake:0.34 (My bets) OK 614
55 23/06/2020 5:25:35 PM 203045823020 Update bet ref:203045823020, old odds:32, new odds:32 (Update bet persistence ref:203045823020 (my bets)) PERSISTENCE_MODIFICATION_SUCCESS 444
56 23/06/2020 5:25:36 PM 203045828848 Update bet ref:203045828848, old odds:42, new odds:42 (Update bet persistence ref:203045828848 (my bets)) PERSISTENCE_MODIFICATION_SUCCESS 1062
57 23/06/2020 5:25:37 PM 203045834400 Update bet ref:203045834400, old odds:180, new odds:180 (Update bet persistence ref:203045834400 (my bets)) PERSISTENCE_MODIFICATION_SUCCESS 1783
58 23/06/2020 5:25:37 PM 203045834403 Update bet ref:203045834403, old odds:36, new odds:36 (Update bet persistence ref:203045834403 (my bets)) PERSISTENCE_MODIFICATION_SUCCESS 1783
59 23/06/2020 5:25:37 PM 203045823013 Update bet ref:203045823013, old odds:26, new odds:26 (Update bet persistence ref:203045823013 (my bets)) PERSISTENCE_MODIFICATION_SUCCESS 1783
60 23/06/2020 5:25:37 PM 203045834305 Update bet ref:203045834305, old odds:27, new odds:27 (Update bet persistence ref:203045834305 (my bets)) PERSISTENCE_MODIFICATION_SUCCESS 1783
61 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853800 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.16 (My bets) OK 445
62 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853801 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.04 (My bets) OK 445
63 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853802 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.04 (My bets) OK 445
64 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853803 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.04 (My bets) OK 445
65 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853804 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.03 (My bets) OK 445
66 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853794 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.02 (My bets) OK 448
67 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853794 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 461
68 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853800 Below minimum stake, cancel bet OK 462
69 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853801 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 462
70 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853802 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 462
71 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853803 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 462
72 23/06/2020 5:25:48 PM 203045853804 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 462
73 23/06/2020 5:25:49 PM 203045854483 Layed 3. Intransit @ odds:22.00, stake:0.45 (My bets) OK 515
74 23/06/2020 5:25:49 PM 203045854484 Layed 2. Yankee Strutter @ odds:200.00, stake:0.05 (My bets) OK 515
75 23/06/2020 5:25:49 PM 203045854485 Layed 4. Chantrey @ odds:46.00, stake:0.22 (My bets) OK 515
76 23/06/2020 5:25:49 PM 203045854486 Layed 1. Threo @ odds:40.00, stake:0.25 (My bets) OK 515
77 23/06/2020 5:25:49 PM 203045854487 Layed 9. Secret Jack @ odds:38.00, stake:0.26 (My bets) OK 515
78 23/06/2020 5:25:49 PM 203045854489 Layed 6. Change Of Mind @ odds:27.00, stake:0.37 (My bets) OK 515
79 23/06/2020 5:25:56 PM 203045823020 Cancel bet (cancel all bets clicked) REMAINING_CANCELLED 441
80 23/06/2020 5:25:56 PM 203045834403 Cancel bet (cancel all bets clicked) REMAINING_CANCELLED 441
81 23/06/2020 5:26:46 PM 203045882188 Backed 2. Yankee Strutter @ odds:220.00, stake:5 (My bets) OK 2719
82 23/06/2020 5:27:11 PM 203045892627 Below minimum stake, lay 5 @ odds 1.12 (My bets) OK 1460
83 23/06/2020 5:27:12 PM 203045892627 Below minimum stake, cancel bet REMAINING_CANCELLED 510
84 23/06/2020 5:27:13 PM 203045893347 Layed 2. Yankee Strutter @ odds:150.00, stake:0.07 (My bets) OK 1488
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Re: Laying below minimum stakes
by Fawltyrat » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:32 am
I cant see anywhere in that log where i layed yankee strutter for 1000+
but i was on my screen after the race was in play and i backed it back for 5 at 220
but i was on my screen after the race was in play and i backed it back for 5 at 220
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Re: Laying below minimum stakes
by Fawltyrat » Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:15 am
BF BETS LOG
-0.50
Lost
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
3. Intransit - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045823013 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:03 Lay 26.00 0.38 -- 9.50
0.38
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
2. Yankee Strutter - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045823017 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:03 Lay 160.00 0.06 -- 9.54
0.06
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
4. Chantrey - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045823018 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:03 Lay 40.00 0.25 -- 9.75
0.25
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
9. Secret Jack - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045823019 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:03 Lay 38.00 0.26 -- 9.62
0.26
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
6. Change Of Mind - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045823021 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:03 Lay 29.00 0.33 -- 9.24
0.33
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
3. Intransit - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045827792 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:12 Lay 28.00 0.36 -- 9.72
0.36
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
2. Yankee Strutter - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045828847 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:13 Lay 170.00 0.06 -- 10.14
0.06
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
4. Chantrey - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045828848 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:13 Lay 42.00 0.24 -- 9.84
0.24
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
9. Secret Jack - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045828849 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:13 Lay 40.00 0.25 -- 9.75
0.25
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
1. Threo - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045828850 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:13 Lay 34.00 0.29 -- 9.57
0.29
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
6. Change Of Mind - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045828851 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:13 Lay 29.00 0.34 -- 9.52
0.34
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
3. Intransit - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045834305 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:22 Lay 27.00 0.37 -- 9.62
0.37
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
2. Yankee Strutter - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045834400 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:22 Lay 180.00 0.06 -- 10.74
0.06
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
4. Chantrey - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045834401 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:22 Lay 44.00 0.23 -- 9.89
0.23
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
9. Secret Jack - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045834402 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:22 Lay 42.00 0.24 -- 9.84
0.24
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
6. Change Of Mind - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045834404 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:22 Lay 29.00 0.34 -- 9.52
0.34
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
2. Yankee Strutter - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045854484 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:53 Lay 200.00 5.00 -- 995.00
5.00
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
4. Chantrey - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045854485 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:53 Lay 46.00 0.22 -- 9.90
0.22
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
1. Threo - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045854486 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:53 Lay 40.00 0.25 -- 9.75
0.25
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
9. Secret Jack - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045854487 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:53 Lay 38.00 0.26 -- 9.62
0.26
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
6. Change Of Mind - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045854489 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:53 Lay 27.00 0.37 -- 9.62
0.37
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
2. Yankee Strutter - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045882188 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:26:49 Back 220.00 5.00 -- --
-5.00
Lost
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
10. Maywyns Best - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045910299 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:28:00 Lay 1.49 1.00 -- 0.49
-0.49
Lost
1 - 24
-0.50
Lost
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
3. Intransit - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045823013 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:03 Lay 26.00 0.38 -- 9.50
0.38
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
2. Yankee Strutter - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045823017 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:03 Lay 160.00 0.06 -- 9.54
0.06
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
4. Chantrey - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045823018 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:03 Lay 40.00 0.25 -- 9.75
0.25
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
9. Secret Jack - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045823019 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:03 Lay 38.00 0.26 -- 9.62
0.26
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
6. Change Of Mind - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045823021 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:03 Lay 29.00 0.33 -- 9.24
0.33
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
3. Intransit - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045827792 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:12 Lay 28.00 0.36 -- 9.72
0.36
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
2. Yankee Strutter - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045828847 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:13 Lay 170.00 0.06 -- 10.14
0.06
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
4. Chantrey - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045828848 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:13 Lay 42.00 0.24 -- 9.84
0.24
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
9. Secret Jack - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045828849 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:13 Lay 40.00 0.25 -- 9.75
0.25
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
1. Threo - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045828850 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:13 Lay 34.00 0.29 -- 9.57
0.29
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
6. Change Of Mind - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045828851 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:13 Lay 29.00 0.34 -- 9.52
0.34
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
3. Intransit - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045834305 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:22 Lay 27.00 0.37 -- 9.62
0.37
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
2. Yankee Strutter - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045834400 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:22 Lay 180.00 0.06 -- 10.74
0.06
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
4. Chantrey - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045834401 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:22 Lay 44.00 0.23 -- 9.89
0.23
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
9. Secret Jack - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045834402 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:22 Lay 42.00 0.24 -- 9.84
0.24
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
6. Change Of Mind - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045834404 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:22 Lay 29.00 0.34 -- 9.52
0.34
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
2. Yankee Strutter - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045854484 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:53 Lay 200.00 5.00 -- 995.00
5.00
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
4. Chantrey - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045854485 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:53 Lay 46.00 0.22 -- 9.90
0.22
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
1. Threo - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045854486 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:53 Lay 40.00 0.25 -- 9.75
0.25
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
9. Secret Jack - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045854487 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:53 Lay 38.00 0.26 -- 9.62
0.26
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
6. Change Of Mind - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045854489 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:25:53 Lay 27.00 0.37 -- 9.62
0.37
Won
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
2. Yankee Strutter - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045882188 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:26:49 Back 220.00 5.00 -- --
-5.00
Lost
23-Jun-20
17:28:46 17:25 Albion Park
10. Maywyns Best - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:203045910299 | Placed: 23-Jun-20 17:28:00 Lay 1.49 1.00 -- 0.49
-0.49
Lost
1 - 24
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Re: Laying below minimum stakes
by Fawltyrat » Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:38 am
So the BA/API log says that horse was layed for 5c at 200/1..where as my account statement says I laid it for 5.00 at 200/1..certainly a mystery. Im sure the market
going into play at the second of placement has got something to do with it.
going into play at the second of placement has got something to do with it.
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