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KEMPTON (AW)

Postby mak » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:40 pm

Can someone tell me if there is something special about this race track?
I never watched a race, but i can tell for sure that my bots can't perform any good at all at this particular track. They perform ok at small fast races AW or not, but never at Kempton...Why? :?
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Postby winabit » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:09 pm

Hi Mak,

Are you talking about your "bots" or your "systems"?

The effect of the draw at Kempton can be quite pronounced.
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Postby mak » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:18 pm

I am talking about bots.They never perform good at Kempton.

I have also found the following but it doesn't help...



There are currently 5 All Weather race courses in the UK Lingfield Park, Kempton, Southwell, Wolverhampton and Great Leighs which is not is not currently active

Lingfield Park

Lingfield Park was the first all weather course in the UK. It was opened 20 years ago and is the home of the most prestigious all weather horse race the Winter Derby. Lingfield's course is a triangular shaped layout on a polytrack surface.

Pointers.
With its sharp bends and short finishing straight this mean that horses that either front run or at least lie up handily with the pace have a good record. The draw can also play an important part in determining the winner. In sprint races horses drawn low have a distinct advantage especially in 5 and 6 furlong races.

Kempton Park

Overview
Opened in March 2006 this floodlit Polytrack synthetic dirt course is a right-handed oval of 8 or 10 furlongs, depending on whether the inner or outer bend is used.

Pointers.
Generally a pretty fair track high numbers do have a definite advantage in sprint races up to 7 furlongs. Because it is the only right handed all weather course it can pay to follow horses that have run well previously at the track.

Southwell

Overview
At Southwell the horses race on fibre sand which gives a much greater kickback than when racing on a polytrack surface. It is a lozenge shaped course with a golf course on the inside.

Pointers
Laid with fibresand which rides deep, stamina-laden performers hold an advantage over their rivals Horses that can run prominently and thus avoid the kickback of sand tend to run best. It is often the case that some horses really do not like either the kickback and/or running on the surface so it is often best to watch a horse the first time it runs at this course. In 5 furlong sprints horses drawn low tend to do well.

Wolverhampton

Overview
This popular Midlands course is one of the two all-weather tracks that benefit from flood lighting and so can stage evening meetings in mid-winter. The Friday and Saturday evening meetings are well supported even if the quality of the racing is not the greatest. It is a tight oval shaped course with a polytrack surface.

Pointers:
Because of it sharp bends this course is ideal for nimble runners who can hold their position. Many horses have thrown away their chances by running wide at the bends. Horses drawn low have a distinct advantage in 5 and 6 furlong sprints but in longer races the effect of the draw is less noticeable.

Great Leighs

This Essex track opened in 2008 but went into administration 9 months after opening. There have been several attempts to get its licence to race back again and it is hoped that meeting may be held again at this course from 2011.
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Postby osknows » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:25 pm

It's funny you've raised this...I don't know any specific reason why but my systems don't work at Kempton either. In fact I remove Kempton from several systems I run
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Postby Captain Sensible » Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:23 am

Could be due to the fact there's so few bookies working the AW at Kempton that the overrounds are usually ridiculous, much worse than the more established AW courses like wolves/lingfield/Southwell.
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Postby greenfingers » Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:22 am

I've found this problem too for in-running bots, I guess that's what you mean rather than prerace? As the captain says, the market there is really weak. Maybe another factor is that Kempton is the only AW track to be shown on Turf TV, which is way faster than SIS on the other tracks, so exchange shop players have an advantage. Doesn't explain why this doesn't happen at all the Turf TV tracks though.

Most of the Kempton races utilise the outer circuit (all except 5f and 1m2f). When the runners on the outer circuit come past the inner shoot 2f from the finish line, the make up of the race changes very quickly, especially as hold-up horses running on the rail get a clear passage to race past the pack. I've been caught out many a time by this when trading manually, maybe the bots do too?!
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Postby Ian » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:19 am

Some friends of mine, who do in-running at the track live, always favour SIS tracks over TurfTV tracks as they reckon they have a greater edge time wise.
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Postby greenfingers » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:21 am

Yup, if they're at the track then their advantage is greatest over the tv players at the SIS tracks because SIS delay is longer than Turf TV.
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Postby mak » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:39 pm

Well it is not clear to me right now, but I will remove Kempton races from my i/r bots...but still very strange

Wondering if other bots performing ok there
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