does anyone have records for suspension times for 1.30 ascot

[jumpsfan]

just wondering if anyone would be able to tell me at what time the suspension sign appeared for the 1.30 at ascot today. both at the start and the finish of the race.
thanks

[Captain Sensible]

I logged the inplay indicator at 13:32:15 , only a rough guide from my app no idea of the suspension at the end of the race

[jumpsfan]

thanks captain

[keesbart]

According to my log:
In Play time at 14:32:18
The race time was 1:31
Race was suspended at 14:33:49
I record all this data in my spreadsheet and after the race I save every spreadsheet.

[keesbart]

I forgot to mention that the times are Middle Eurpean Times. For UK time subtract 1 hour.

[jumpsfan]

thank you keesbart

[jumpsfan]

keesbart, i did ask betfair and they told me the race was suspended at 13:33:44
are you sure your records are accurate?

[keesbart]

Hi Jumpsfan,
I am pretty sure that my data is correct.
I am registrating the time the moment the race turns In Play.
Also I registrate the duration of the race, starting the moment the race goes in play and stopping the moment of suspension.
4 seconds after suspension I save my spreadsheet to disk.
My spreadsheet gives the following data:
-Time (MET) of In Play: 14:32:18
-Race Time: 1:31
-Time spreadsheet is saved: 14:33:53
- calculated time of suspension: 14:33:49 (14:33:53 - 0:04) or (14:32:18 + 1:31).

[jumpsfan]

hello keesbart, thanks for your help and replies.
the reason i am asking this is because i believe the race was suspended very late. i watch ATR on cable with about a 6 second delay, but i am sure they only suspended about 30 yards from the finish when its usually about half a furlong or more out on my pictures.
i have now emailed betfair and they have given me these times:
at the start 13:32:12
at the end 13:33:44
the race lasted 1 minute 30 seconds .3 of a second ( time from the racing post results page )
so looking at these times they have sent me , i would guess the race was left open 2-3 seconds after the finish.
if you email info@betfair.com they will send you the times.
just annoying the market is left open so long.

[keesbart]

Hi Jumpsfan,
This is all very strange.
I use the time that is supplied to me by the API cell C3 for my calculations. This time corresponds with my computertime.

My In Play and Suspension times are about 5-6 seconds off the times that Betfair has given to you.
My In Play time: 14:32:18 -> Betfair time 14:32:12
My Suspension time: 14:32:49 -> Betfair time 14:32:44.
My race time: 1:31 -> Racing Post time: 1:30:30 (same)
This would mean that the BA-API time is about 5-6 seconds later than the real time of the race.

Gary do you have an explanation for this?

[keesbart]

I made a mistake in the suspension time:
Corrected:
My Suspension time: 14:33:49 -> Betfair time 14:33:44

[GaryRussell]

Hi Jumpsfan,
This is all very strange.
I use the time that is supplied to me by the API cell C3 for my calculations. This time corresponds with my computertime.

My In Play and Suspension times are about 5-6 seconds off the times that Betfair has given to you.
My In Play time: 14:32:18 -> Betfair time 14:32:12
My Suspension time: 14:32:49 -> Betfair time 14:32:44.
My race time: 1:31 -> Racing Post time: 1:30:30 (same)
This would mean that the BA-API time is about 5-6 seconds later than the real time of the race.

Gary do you have an explanation for this?

Do you know for certain that your PC time is exactly in sync with Betfair's time? If you are sure then I'm afraid I cannot explain it.
Betfair use the following NTP servers to sync their clocks.
Chimera.csx.cam.ac.uk
Ntp.maths.tcd.ie
Dire.bris.ac.uk
Ntp1.pipex.net

[keesbart]

Gary,

I am absolutely sure that my computertime is the same is the time from cell C3 in BA.
I have made some screenshots to prove this which I can send to you.
I do not know how to connect them to my message in this forum but I can e-mail them to you.

Also I checked the data from Betfair grid with the data from the BA grid.
The data in the Betfair grid is way behind the data in the BA grid.
For example: the 13:20 FlamP (RSA) was suspended in the BA grid 1.30 after the offical scheduled off. In the Betfair grid suspension happened at 1.43 after the official scheduled off. I have screenshots to prove this and I can also send you this data.
Actually all the Betfair grid data is 10-15 seconds later then the BA grid data. I also have screenshots to prove this.

I am getting very confused about this.

[GaryRussell]

I am absolutely sure that my computertime is the same is the time from cell C3 in BA.

There isn't anything output to cell C3 by BA. Do you mean B2 which contains the last updated time? This is the last time that BA updated the spreadsheet and this time is taken from your PC time so it will always be the same. Your PC could be minutes out and it would still be the same. It doesn't prove anything.

Also I checked the data from Betfair grid with the data from the BA grid.
The data in the Betfair grid is way behind the data in the BA grid.
For example: the 13:20 FlamP (RSA) was suspended in the BA grid 1.30 after the offical scheduled off. In the Betfair grid suspension happened at 1.43 after the official scheduled off. I have screenshots to prove this and I can also send you this data.
Actually all the Betfair grid data is 10-15 seconds later then the BA grid data. I also have screenshots to prove this.

Were you logged into the Betfair website at the time you took the screenshots. Betfair deliberately delay the information if you are not logged in to deter users from trying to avoid data request charges by hammering the server while not logged in.
I am certain there is not a bug in BA causing it to display the prices out of line with what Betfair are providing.

[keesbart]

Gary,

Sorry, it is cell C2. My mistake.