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Greening up

Postby sunagon » Tue May 23, 2006 8:03 am

Hi everyone

I'd like to be able to use the greening up function..................but to be honest I'm baffled.

I'd really appreciate a step by step guide to how this function works.

Many thanks...........Sunagon :D
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Postby JonG » Tue May 23, 2006 11:41 am

Did you try the video demonstration? The second link has the part about greening up.
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Postby greg » Tue May 23, 2006 3:54 pm

CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN WHY YOU CANT GREEN UP IN-RUNNING
OR IS THIS A STUPID QUESTION

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Greening up

Postby sunagon » Tue May 23, 2006 6:47 pm

Thanks Jon :roll:
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Postby one cool dog » Wed May 24, 2006 11:01 am

Hi Greg, explain your questions a bit further.

What software do you use and what are you trying to achieve - I know that sounds obvious but let me know step-by-step what you want to achieve.
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Postby greg » Wed May 24, 2006 11:51 pm

hi one cool dog
and thanks for replying.
what i was trying to achieve is for example if i lay for £10 before in play.then back for £10 (WHEN IN PLAY)when the price drifts to get my tenner back plus profit,but then green up the profit.is it possible for gary to programme this.i would like to green up the profit in case the horse wins or loses whichever way ive played it.
i hope thats clear
THANKS
GREG :?

PS I USE BETFAIR TRADER 0.99o
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Postby one cool dog » Thu May 25, 2006 8:03 am

Hi, I would not know if Gary could do that but the rest is just maths

If you lay a 3.0 shot and back it back at say 5.0 (I know we are dealing here in ideals) you would have a free £20 bet for a tenner staked.

In an easy world you would then hope your horse goes 2.0 in-running and then lay it for a £10 stake again, so you win £10 either way.

Again, without having any experience of programing, i guess you could not program something to do that straight away, but using BA, you could set your lay in-running and hope it gets matched. That is a real positive of the software in my opinion, being able to set you lay price low on BA, fire it in after the off, and wait for it to be matched.

You have to know your stuff to do in in-running and sadly maths is not my strongest point, well quick enough to make it pay. If you have get a lumpy free bet before an off on a fancied runner or one that is sure to be up with the pace, it should make things a lot easier.

As I was looking to make a nice regular extra income, I investigated making a £2 win for every race whatever the outcome, but it was not as easy as I had hoped, probably because my maths is not good enough. But, for me, £2 a race, maybe 21 races a day, would have suit me and still would!
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Postby The Gambling Monkey » Thu May 25, 2006 9:40 am

It would be possible to code this in VBA using Gary's program. In fact that is what I will be trying to do next.
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Postby greg » Thu May 25, 2006 9:58 am

cheers for the replies
hi gambling monkey
if you do that will we all be able to use it :)
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Postby one cool dog » Thu May 25, 2006 3:26 pm

Hi

That sounds very interesting and I would be interested to. In laymans speak, how would it be possible as it would be dependant on an advantageous price shift, or is that stating the obvious?

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Postby Castillo » Thu May 25, 2006 10:19 pm

I don't know if this helps but worth reading....

Greening - the formula
http://gruss-software.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=357
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Postby GeorgeUK » Thu May 25, 2006 11:30 pm

Hopefully not too confusing.

Ernie and i put up the formulas for backing and laying to greenup.
These were really for calculating if you had more than one bet on the same event and wanted an even spread of profit/loss

http://gruss-software.co.uk/forum/viewt ... ight=#3152

The formulas are near the end of the post and Ernie gives a good explanation with a picture to go by.
I was going to put this into excel, but never go around to it. Had to cut back on my betting :roll:
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Postby Mitch » Fri May 26, 2006 8:36 pm

Greg.
The idea with the level profit column in green, is that you use that to offset the original bet rather than do it manually with the same stake then use the level profit function.
Sorry if you already knew that but that's how I've read it. Let me know if that doesn't make sense.

One cool dog.
If you have an idea that you can't put into practice with maths/coding there are plenty of people here who could make it happen for you and would be willing to help.
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Postby greg » Fri May 26, 2006 9:36 pm

Yes MITCH
I was wanting to green up while in play.
So to guarantee a profit.

Ive tried other ways like lay for £3 and then back for £2 while in play to guarantee a quid and also with higher stakes obviously. :oops: LOL.

But i was just wondering if it was possible to programme BA to green up in play,

CHEERS
GREG 8)
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Postby Mitch » Fri May 26, 2006 10:33 pm

If I understand you correctly then what you need to do is.......

Make sure trading mode box is ticked.
Make your first bet.

Once the first bet is matched, the potential level profit (or loss) should appear in the green 'lvl profit' box on the same line as your selection. When you are happy with the figure, click it (the green square that is).

I'm not sure if the info is lost when the market turns in-play (if you haven't already greened-up) but if it is, untick then tick again the trading mode box, and select your original bet in the next pop-up box.

Is that what you meant?
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