Conditions throwing out winng bets....grrr

[johnlom]

Been backing horses using "conditions"

eg back any horse between 2 and 2.5 in running

15 25 ayr stormin exit (won) backed then backed Five Dream (lost)
16 15 th Hawkeyethenoo (won) also backed Green Park (lost)
20 25 Dund Force of habit (won) also backed Chapparo (lost)

on each of the above occasions when the 2nd bet was accepted (ie the loser) it wiped out the winning bets !!! wtf is happening please?

Is this a cock up with the programme or what?...cost me well over £100 quid!!!

[2020vision]

Been backing horses using "conditions"

eg back any horse between 2 and 2.5 in running

15 25 ayr stormin exit (won) backed then backed Five Dream (lost)
16 15 th Hawkeyethenoo (won) also backed Green Park (lost)
20 25 Dund Force of habit (won) also backed Chapparo (lost)

on each of the above occasions when the 2nd bet was accepted (ie the loser) it wiped out the winning bets !!! wtf is happening please?

Is this a cock up with the programme or what?...cost me well over £100 quid!!!

Hi johnlom

Sorry to read you appear to have had a loss - from the above I can not
see why or how? Would/could you please provide more details? I find the
program to be excellent and very reliable. Is it possible you backed more
than just the two runners in each race? Loss of 5% commission at most?

Thanks - Michael

P.S. I assume all were the same level stakes?
Is it possible the winners were only partially matched?

[johnlom]

Thanks for the interest

In the transaction log for the20 25 Dundalk it reads....

Bet Ref 10663888566 Backed Chaparro@odds:2.18 stake£40(conditional bet) API Response OK and
Bet Ref 0 Backed Force of Habit@odds:2.5 stake£40(conditional bet)API Response UNKNOWN-ERROR

I saw the bets fulfilled on my screen until the race was over when the winning bets just disappeared

very strange dont you think....any ideas??

thanks again John

[GaryRussell]

As far as I can see from what you have said it is only doing what it is designed to do. It will place any bet that matches the conditions so in each case the 2nd horse also matched the conditions. It's not designed to place the first bet that meets the conditions and ignore the rest.

[GaryRussell]

Also how can you have lost £100 with two horses matched at over even money with one of them being the winner? Do you mean you lost out on potential winnings?

[2020vision]

Also how can you have lost £100 with two horses matched at over even money with one of them being the winner? Do you mean you lost out on potential winnings?

I think Gary the loss is because it happened 3 times? (3x£40 - all lost, winners not backed)?

My only theory at the moment is that the winners prices dropped so quick the bets were
not matched - is that possible? i.e. condition met, bets fired, odds on Betfair gone?

Also for johnlom...

Been backing horses using "conditions"
eg back any horse between 2 and 2.5 in running

Not my place to point out because you may have very good reason for the above but surely
this is a risky bet because if you match MORE THAN TWO you are guaranteed a loss?
That's why I also asked if you got matched on more.

Sorry I can not do more - Michael

[GaryRussell]

I think Gary the loss is because it happened 3 times? (3x£40 - all lost, winners not backed)?

I'm not sure about that. He's listed three races and says it only backed two in each race.

My only theory at the moment is that the winners prices dropped so quick the bets were
not matched - is that possible?

It's possible, but he says "wiped out the winning bets". I infer from this that the winning bets were matched.

Not my place to point out because you may have very good reason for the above but surely
this is a risky bet because if you match MORE THAN TWO you are guaranteed a loss?

I think the problem is he expected it to place the first bet that matched the condition and ignore the rest so only one horse would ever be backed.

[Herbie1809]

Hello Boys!

(I did'nt say that in a fruity voice).

I have tried a similar approach. It usually involves making too many bets in a race, so I found a way to limit the number of bets.

Add an extra condition to the trigger by counting the cells where a bet reference already exists. You can use this to limit the number of bets per race to 1, 2,etc.

Only prob is, cancelled/unmatched bets still show as a bet reference. Still working on a more sophisticated way to do this.

Hope it helps

[kiint]

Thanks for the interest

In the transaction log for the20 25 Dundalk it reads....

Bet Ref 10663888566 Backed Chaparro@odds:2.18 stake£40(conditional bet) API Response OK and
Bet Ref 0 Backed Force of Habit@odds:2.5 stake£40(conditional bet)API Response UNKNOWN-ERROR

I saw the bets fulfilled on my screen until the race was over when the winning bets just disappeared

very strange dont you think....any ideas??

thanks again John

I think what has happened is that John has successfully placed a bet on Force of Habit but the second bet returned an error from the API so it was never actually placed. This was unfortunate as it would have been the winning bet and the result is a loss of £40.

I think what he is also saying is that the unsuccessful bet was showing as successfully placed until the race suspended when it disappeared which could be worrying.

This isn't something I've ever experienced, all my bets that error never get shown but without knowing more about how John is placing his bets, then I would say it is hard to say what is happening. In fact I could be completely wrong here anyway.