One click trading - free program coming soon

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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:14 am

Originally posted by: cglover
secondly how does a super charged ferrari refresh ? Its towards the end of the post so a lot of you may not of read it.
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:32 am

Originally posted by: moneymagnet
Coger - The people on here know what the program does because they know how the exchange works and how they can hopefully make money out of it.

The reality is that nobody is ever going to give you that information as it would undermine their position. The best you will get is sarcastic comments....

<b>P.S. THE BIG BUTTON ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE KEYBOARD WILL TURN OFF THE CAPS ..... IT'S MARKED CAPS LOCK</b>
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:53 am

Originally posted by: Gambler Steve
Argh, surely a little common sense will tell you why this stuff is in there and how it's used.

<i>Why would you want to back at the lay price and lay at the back price?</i>

Geesh, Best lay price is 3.2, best back price is 3.0.
You back at 3.2 for £100, you lay at 3.0 for £106.67. Both bets are matched and you have a risk free profit of £6.33 regardless of the outcome. The rev function saves you time entering the odds you require.

<i>Why would you want to lay every horse in a race?</i>

15 runner handicap and it's 4/1 the field. They're off, you lay the field at 3.0 each for a tenner. They're in the final furlong and the winner could be any one from 5 horses. These 5 horses are all now trading around the 2.0/3.0 mark as they near the finish. Five of your lays are matched, you collect £50. So one horse that you've layed wins and you have to pay out. You figure out how much money you've just made.

I have a question. Why would you post such idiotic drivel on a forum? This is not a bookmaker this is a betting exchange, we back, lay and trade. If you don't understand how it works then ask questions. Please don't post in bold and deride a piece of software which the majority of us find absolutely brilliant.

Nuff said.
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:26 am

Originally posted by: moneymagnet
oh well. I was proved wrong Coger. Generally all you will get are sarcastic comments lol

Totally agree steve, brilliant program. Can't wait to see trading version.
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:40 am

Originally posted by: senlac
An interesting programme that I am giving a dry run. Layit is to be congratulated for making a great effort and for offering it to all. Negative smart ar-e comments add nothing to any forum.
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:29 pm

Originally posted by: LayItYouMug
Thank god coger's message is not the most recent. If I'd just got home from work and read that I would be feeling more than a little discouraged.

Thank you for defending it

Can I say in my defence that it is still a pre-release, I'm just letting people use what I've got so far so that can get some use from it. The minus figures on the dutching option are an oversight. I will be changing this so it is clearer, but the button does not go green when there is a minus figure so it wont actually try to back with a minus figure. When there are minus figures present it just means that it's not possible to do a dutch bet (eg. 2 odds on horses).
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:00 pm

Originally posted by: moocher
Many thanks for making this program available. Ignore the critics, there are a lot of us who really appreciate your efforts.
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:11 pm

Originally posted by: moneymagnet
Yes its getting plenty of use here layit
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:07 pm

Originally posted by: The Gambling Monkey
LayItYouMug,
I've been using the Pre-release version for a couple of weeks now. It works perfectly, as does the one click betting. It is a great piece of software you have kindly allowed us to have.

You asked us to test it and as such I have a few queries, all minor in nature and all inconsequential really.
1. When the program autorefreshes why does the betfair internet explorer screen refresh about a second before your program?
2. Why don't the links to "My Account" work and on a similar vein why aren't I logged into the forum?

Once again many thanks.
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:19 pm

Originally posted by: Jupiter10023
Hey Layit good stuff ...

Is this always going to be FREE?

Thanks

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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:46 pm

Originally posted by: LayItYouMug
This program is ALWAYS going to be free. You might think I'm just trying to get people interested and then try and flog it. This is not the case.

The delay you can see between Betfair updating and the display at the top is the time it takes to read through the elements in the web page and populate the grid (including drawing graphs). I will look into which bit of code is the least efficient and decrease the delay to the shortest time possible. It appears to be less than half a second on my computer.

'My account' and the forum do not work properly because the program uses the ActiveX component supplied by Microsoft to embed Explorer in the program which doesn't handle it properly. I have noticed if you open up Explorer separately and log in then it will then work within my program. I am looking for a solution to this.
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:32 pm

Originally posted by: Lex
Layit. I did tell you that the webbrowser control is a wrapper for IE v.4.0 thats why it does not work as well as it should. Use explorer as an object the code is trivial. Did you use webbrowser.sleep to block pop-ups? be careful where you put it in the code it'll block the login as well. Re speed are you using Sendkeys - better to use the html elements it'll be a lot faster.
re Codger, dont get discouraged, spend a little time writing a simple help list. You can make the best car in the world but its no use stuck in the garage.
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:57 pm

Originally posted by: sally
As I have said before this program is absolutely brilliant and I cant understand any grounds for criticism, I was actually mad when I read that post from COGAR, Layit just ignore it.
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Postby GaryRussell » Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:09 am

Originally posted by: TamsLoup
To be fair to cogar, I don't think he was being critical of the program, but just showing his inexperience of how to make best use of the program and Betfair in general.

Don't like bold caps tho!
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Postby GaryRussell » Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:23 am

Originally posted by: Justice
Gus. Thanks for everything.

How come the dutching does not go green when the overound % is at, say, 120%?
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