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by **alunp** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:02 pm

Has there been a change to the way the stop loss works with the new ladder.

Here's the changes that there seems to be

a) it now gets out AT the stop loss rather than one below. In the previous version if I wanted a 3 tick sliding stop loss I would set the stop loss at 2. Now setting it at 2 seems to actually get out at 2.

b) the stop loss seems to be a bit more on the ball at getting out. the prev version didn't seem that zealous on getting out and would appear to hold fire (perhaps until it was actually traded i'm not sure) but now it gets out instantly (or appears to).

Am I right that there have been changes in this area, and if so can you detail them.

The first one is ok, it just means a change in number to get the stop loss I actually want.

The second one might be more problematic as I liked the way it got me out of things in a seemingly intelligent way before.

Lets know

Thanks

Al

by **GaryRussell** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:13 pm

I haven't changed the code that handles stop loss. All the changes have been to the user interface. It has always been triggered at the number of ticks you set, the extra tick is added when it places the stop loss bet to try and ensure it gets matched, eg. matched at 5, 2 tick stop loss will trigger at 5.2, but request odds 5.3. Also you should be aware (and this has always been the case) that the stop loss is triggered when the best odds reach your stop loss odds, not the last traded price, in case this is causing some confusion.

by **alunp** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:40 pm

is there any way in the options/preferences to ensure the back bet on a stop loss is always triggered at 1.01 so even if your refresh rate is low, or even if you're doing in running trading, that you'll always get matched at the best price (whatever that is)

by **alunp** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:45 pm

also i'm noticing that when you put a bet in, the number stays in the white column even after the bet is taken.

and i tried to lay a horse just now, missed th price and was unable to drag the money up a tick in the way i normally can.

by **alunp** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:51 pm

the red block indicating stop loss exit price doesn't always disappear either even though the stop loss has been taken. i laid at 8.4 and i exited at 8.4 and the red block remained and so did the Red Cancel Stop Loss button at the top.

sorry to throw this sort of stuff at you but hopefull its helpful

al

by **GaryRussell** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:48 pm

alunp wrote:is there any way in the options/preferences to ensure the back bet on a stop loss is always triggered at 1.01 so even if your refresh rate is low, or even if you're doing in running trading, that you'll always get matched at the best price (whatever that is)

There isn't currently, I will look into it.

by **GaryRussell** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:49 pm

alunp wrote:also i'm noticing that when you put a bet in, the number stays in the white column even after the bet is taken.

and i tried to lay a horse just now, missed th price and was unable to drag the money up a tick in the way i normally can.

Shouldn't be happening. When you say the bet was taken, does it appear as matched in the bets manager?

by **GaryRussell** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:52 pm

alunp wrote:the red block indicating stop loss exit price doesn't always disappear either even though the stop loss has been taken. i laid at 8.4 and i exited at 8.4 and the red block remained and so did the Red Cancel Stop Loss button at the top.

sorry to throw this sort of stuff at you but hopefull its helpful

al

I did find a bug causing the stop loss indicator not to be cleared, I have fixed this version 1.0.1.18. I have changed the way that the ladders are updated to make it more efficient, in this case the stop loss status and what was actually displayed were out of sync.

by **alunp** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:05 pm

GaryRussell wrote:
alunp wrote:also i'm noticing that when you put a bet in, the number stays in the white column even after the bet is taken.

and i tried to lay a horse just now, missed th price and was unable to drag the money up a tick in the way i normally can.

Shouldn't be happening. When you say the bet was taken, does it appear as matched in the bets manager?

yes.

by **alunp** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:07 pm

GaryRussell wrote:
alunp wrote:the red block indicating stop loss exit price doesn't always disappear either even though the stop loss has been taken. i laid at 8.4 and i exited at 8.4 and the red block remained and so did the Red Cancel Stop Loss button at the top.

sorry to throw this sort of stuff at you but hopefull its helpful

al

I did find a bug causing the stop loss indicator not to be cleared, I have fixed this version 1.0.1.18. I have changed the way that the ladders are updated to make it more efficient, in this case the stop loss status and what was actually displayed were out of sync.

ah ok, my v is 1.0.1.17 i'll go and update it now

by **GaryRussell** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:12 pm

Did the matched stake eventually disappear or stay there for many refreshes? Also were the prices still refreshing? If it happens again check if switching to another application so that the program is not visible and switching back again removes it, if it does then I will have a better idea of the cause of the problem.

by **alunp** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:48 pm

GaryRussell wrote:Did the matched stake eventually disappear or stay there for many refreshes? Also were the prices still refreshing? If it happens again check if switching to another application so that the program is not visible and switching back again removes it, if it does then I will have a better idea of the cause of the problem.

it didn't seem to but in order to get rid of it i'd eventually click the stake figure that hadn't disappeared in order to remove it, which seemed to work.

next time it happens i'll try some of the things you said

by **alunp** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:59 pm

ok, the refresh thing you suggested did work. i opened firefox over the top, switched back and it had sorted itself.

but the problem is deeper than that.

for instance, i lay a horse but don't get the odds

a) if i click the amount to remove the amount still waiting there, then nothing happens. the only way i can remove it is by going down to the matched bets list.

b) similarly i can't grab an amount and drag it to a new price.

by **GaryRussell** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:50 pm

How often is this happening? Every bet or intermittently?

by **alunp** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:21 am

GaryRussell wrote:How often is this happening? Every bet or intermittently?

EVery time that situation occurs. Obviously a lot of the time the bet is matched but when its not is when it happens.

As an aside on the refresh issue, double clicking to centre the odds will refresh any stray numbers too. Tho thats a different issue to the above.

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