One click trading - free program coming soon

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Postby GaryRussell » Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:56 am

Originally posted by: LayItYouMug
Lex. Give me some credit! I set the silent property to true to stop popups, but it sets it to false when you are on the homepage and not logged in so it does not interfere with you logging in. The speed issue is with using the getElementsById etc. to read the prices and update the grid (a little more sophisticated than just looking at document.body.innerHTML and parsing it myself). I don't think there is a speed issue with putting the bet request through. I wouldn't dream of using sendkeys which just emulates human input. I use document.parent.ExcecScript to directly call the javascript functions which are called when you input a bet manually. Also, you say it easy to use IE 6, but the method you describe opens up an instance of the whole application which is separate to my program, so how would I embed that on the bottom panel of my main form?
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Postby GaryRussell » Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:22 am

Originally posted by: SmallAcorns
Hi LayItYouMug,

Would you be happy to make this code open source? I have been struggling for ages to try and automate betfair without using their api.

Any help, code or pointers in the right direction would be much appreciated.
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Postby GaryRussell » Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:34 am

Originally posted by: VeeBeeSix
LayItYouMug

I'm curious - is there any reason why you send the bets via BF's IE interface?

I use WinHTTP and talk directly to the server i.e. bypassing all the Javascript / DOM nonsense.

Of course there is nowt wrong with having BF's site open in a browser for viewing purposes but there's definitely no <u>need</u> to talk to the server through it.

Very nice product by the way.
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Postby GaryRussell » Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:54 am

Originally posted by: Justice
Layit - you are an early bird!

Thanks for not answering, one should not post silly questions when drunk!!
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Postby GaryRussell » Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:12 pm

Originally posted by: Lex
I dont think WinHTTP is part of vb but MSXML. But is it any quicker than DOM?
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Postby GaryRussell » Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:34 pm

Originally posted by: VeeBeeSix
Lex

"But is it any quicker than DOM?"

I think so: someone further up the thread mentioned a delay in logging in. Using WinHTTP to process the login takes a nanosecond in my experience.

Rather than the commands being processed as:

App > browser > Javascript > Server > Javascript > Updated browser

you go:

App > Server > Updated App

The real advantage is that it cuts out the middle man and makes for a very streamlined browserless ap, (there's a lot of wasted screenspace with BF on a browser).

By the way, LayItYouMug: if you follow Lex's advice your app can easily control an instance of IE6 or whatever from a separate window.
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Postby GaryRussell » Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:40 pm

Originally posted by: LayItYouMug
VeeBeeSix: I am fully aware of the advantages of cutting the browser out of the equation, VB.NET has a very easy to use WebClient class. I simply don't know what urls to access or what data to post to the server. The javascript does all this for me. I agree that a superior program would result from bypassing IE, it is undeniable. If you know how to place bets without using the API or a web browser then why don't you tell me how. I know that you wont
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Postby GaryRussell » Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:41 pm

Originally posted by: LayItYouMug
Posted by Lex on another thread:-

MoneyMagnet - Bet-IE is not the same as Layits. Although not a Bot either it provides a one click betting strategy for Dutching and also a hedge function. It has its own place in the market and has at the moment one advantage over others - it works and makes the user money. LayIts program is excellent and free but its not the same. It has no help or backup. its good for the one click betting but it offers no support or safety nets like max bet/liability. Bet-IE is a proven betting system and available with a free trial period. Its not perfect - nothing is - but it does what is says on the tin.

Lex. Have you got a vested interest in the Bet-IE program?
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Postby GaryRussell » Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:03 pm

Originally posted by: Lex
Hi Layit - Bet-IE deserves the plug..simply because it has no pretentions to being something it isnt. There are reviews going on a few forums and bar a few bugs it works, and when I say it works I mean it actually makes people money. Not knocking what your doing at all. But you are 'learning' by your own admission, there is no 'help' by your admission, and you certainly do not make your income by using Betfair because you are a programmer. The author of Bet-IE is not learning, there is a comprehensive help and emails are answered usually by return, also he personally uses Bet-IE to make his daily wages. According to one forum a lot of people are making money using it and thats what counts.

I think what your doing it great, its just not comparable thats all.

By the way, if you make IE an object lie I sugested then you can position it where you want in relation to your data controls.
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Postby GaryRussell » Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:10 pm

Originally posted by: Lex
Layit

I dont do winHTTP my self
but I found this link that you may find useful ?

<a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winhttp/http/winhttp_start_page.asp" target="_blank">http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winhttp/http/winhttp_start_page.asp</a>
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Postby GaryRussell » Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:17 pm

Originally posted by: KilburnKen
To place a bet
<a href="http://forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/threads.jspa?tID=80472&schatname=ChatName#null" target="_blank">http://forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/threads.jspa?tID=80472&schatname=ChatName#null</a>
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Postby GaryRussell » Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:50 pm

Originally posted by: sally
Bet-IE or Layit will not make you money of their own accord,you must a winning strategy,they
are just tools to help
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Postby GaryRussell » Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:51 pm

Originally posted by: LayItYouMug
Lex. Sorry about my last comment. I admit that I'm no position to create a program that will make people money for them. But my program has one feature that the other programs cannot match.

It's free
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Postby GaryRussell » Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:54 pm

Originally posted by: LayItYouMug
KilburnKen. Wow! You really know your stuff. Is it ok if I use your method in my program?
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Postby GaryRussell » Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:02 pm

Originally posted by: Lex
<b> Layit says :-</b>

<i><u>"I admit that I'm no position to create a program that will make people money for them."</u></i>


Yes and you do that for free. Well done.
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