One click trading - free program coming soon

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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:11 am

Originally posted by: DOUBLED
Does spoofing affect this trading tool ?
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:43 pm

Originally posted by: Justice
Could anyone tell where is the one click box to be checked or unchecked. I'm sure there was one in earlier versions.
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:27 pm

Originally posted by: TrueForm
I don't see how spoofing will affect the trading tool. This won't be an auto-trade option like X-Bot. I think it will calculate the stake to lock in a profit. You will still have to manually place the trade yourself so if you are caught by a spoofer it will be down to you.

To enable instant one-click bets, just untick <b>Verify Bets</b> on the right hand side
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:48 pm

Originally posted by: LayItYouMug
Opinions please. I'm getting a few requests to have an option to log the prices to a file. Reading Betfair's terms and conditions this looks like it is forbidden. You will appreciate I'm not too keen to ask Betfair about this. Would this be a bad idea and get me banned?
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:54 pm

Originally posted by: TheGoldenVision
2 thoughts spring to mind
1. "Keeping your head below the parapet" is always a good idea
2. "Don't draw (any extra) attention to yourself" seems good advice as well

Only thinking out aloud!
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:00 pm

Originally posted by: sally
This is an excellent idea,but i guess you will have to do it to find out if you get banned or not.Is it worth the risk to kill all the developments?
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:37 pm

Originally posted by: TrueForm
I'm not sure it's worth the hassle Layit. I certainly wouldn't use it and maybe only a handful would. There is historical data available through the BDP if people are that interested in analysing Betfair prices.

Saying that, X-Bot does produce a log of bets it has made (or it used to, I don't have access to it anymore)
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:48 pm

Originally posted by: LayItYouMug
Thanks for the comments. I think it's no then and as you point out you can do the historical download. Maybe I could add an option in the future to enable people to use the data Betfair supply via my program (eg. import into a mySQL database and provide a simple interface for doing queries).
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:03 pm

Originally posted by: sally
The problem with the bdp data is that it is only part of the data,the event when a price for a horse
was first and last matched,e.g 2.0 could be matched many times during trading but the data only shows 2 instances,so it is not possible to construct a graph.
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:12 pm

Originally posted by: TamsLoup
Morally, I don't think Betfair could complain. They have the means by which to provide this data, but choose not to. And I don't think it would take deal of effort on their part either.

The historical data, although useful, isn't quite what it could be. It is merely a summary which tells you how much was matched on each selection at each price. It doesn't provide the data which could show you all of the movements within a given timespan, which is what I think people really want. And Betfair have admitted that there are people who want this.

Also, if Layit was to provide this option, you could select only those events that interest you, rather than everything. And you'd also have it a lot quicker, rather than having to wait for Betfair to provide last month's data.

But, that's up to Layit.
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:29 pm

Originally posted by: sally
The bdp data really annoys me,it is a not a great deal of help atall
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:35 pm

Originally posted by: the_giraffe
yeah i think the no goal market in football is useless, it only gave me the information from when the last goal was scored!
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:36 pm

Originally posted by: You are logged in as
Gary, the only way to log the prices properly, without using the API, is by accessing the

LoadRunnerInfoAction.do?marketId=2686285&selectionId=860160 etc

page - that's the only available page you get an accurate view of what is matched - all other prices won't be of too much use, do you save the available to lay or to back prices doesn't mean they were matched just available + you'd need to log the available amounts also otherwise £2 bets could spoof any usable data.

Not knocking the suggestion but unless it's done right it may be too much of a waste of effort diverted from your original idea of a trading program.
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:38 pm

Originally posted by: TamsLoup
As a monopoly, customer relations isn't really Betfair's priority.

It's much cheaper to send a standard email that suggests you 'delete files from your temporary internet directory' than look into the real problem which someone on their staff probably already knows about.

Sorry, but I've become very cynical in the short time I've been here.
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Postby GaryRussell » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:42 pm

Originally posted by: You are logged in as
sally, I thought the bdp data was timestamped so it should be easy enough to track the movements within a market. I haven't looked at it for a while so ignore me if it isn't timestamped.

I found the bdp data useless mainly because they've lumped all the files together and my PC and access either slow down or crash trying to extract anything too useful
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